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I'm starting this thread because Moonhowler's "spring" thread proved to be very popular and very helpful...and we do seem to have quite a few active landscapers around here now!!


I have 2 yr old clematis on the southside of my house, (lots of sun, roots well shaded) even though they bloom well, they just seem a little "skimpy". Need some suggestions on cutting back, pruning, feeding, whatever it will take to get them to "fill out".
 April 5, 2006, 09:13
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Pruning is the key to get all things to fill in!.....Takes a couple of years, but its well worth it!....Takes a lot to cut them back, I wanted to kill my husband the first year he pruned my "yard", I thought he killed everything he cut it back so much, but the next year, it all grew back twice as nice!
 April 5, 2006, 12:11
 

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I gotta a Landscaping/greenhouse uncle, he's one of those...he can just glance in the general direction of a plant and make it prosper!!
I know I should cut it back, at least some, but that's hard to do when it already has a few big beautiful blooms staring back atcha!
 April 5, 2006, 12:27
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I personally would at least wait until after it blooms.....No reason to cut the flowers off now.......But, I do understand that feeling of not wanting to cut it back!...
 April 5, 2006, 12:31
 

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I'm gonna be shopping sometime this week for that shady area bush I got so many suggestions on in Moon's thread. !!(after I research and get an "online" look at the ones mentioned! Anyone got a good plant/bush/shrub link with lots of photos, send it to me ASAP!!)Of course, I'll also come home with a truck full of "OHHHHHH PRETTY!!!" plants that I have no idea of where I'm gonna plant them at the time of purchase!
 April 5, 2006, 13:08
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also varies on different trees and shrubs what time of year you should prune them but i know for fruit trees usually during fall or early winter and most other trees during winter if inless storm damage...also on pine trees watch out they tend to get bag worms they can kill the pine trees if not treated properly
 April 5, 2006, 13:49
 

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  QUOTE (tomboy6978 @ April 5, 2006, 13:49)
also varies on different trees and shrubs what time of year you should prune them but i know for fruit trees usually during fall or early winter and most other trees during winter if inless storm damage...also on pine trees watch out they tend to get bag worms they can kill the pine trees if not treated properly



Bagworms, not much of a problem here, but those freakin' nasty tent worms have been a menace and a terror around my area of Missouri for the past ten years!
 April 5, 2006, 13:51
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they have different kinds of sprays for those tentworms but if you ever get bagworms remove them as much as you can and either set them on fire or spray them and keep eye out on the pine trees
 April 5, 2006, 13:54
 

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  QUOTE (Chazzy @ April 5, 2006, 13:08)
I'm gonna be shopping sometime this week for that shady area bush I got so many suggestions on in Moon's thread. !!(after I research and get an "online" look at the ones mentioned! Anyone got a good plant/bush/shrub link with lots of photos, send it to me ASAP!!)Of course, I'll also come home with a truck full of "OHHHHHH PRETTY!!!" plants that I have no idea of where I'm gonna plant them at the time of purchase!



Chaz, I tend to do the same thing ("OHHHHH PRETTY!!!" . I had an idea today of what to do. I went out and picked a few AWESOME smelling roses out of my backyard and put them in a pot with water on the stove to simmer. It smells sooooooooooo good in here now!! I got the idea, after that, to just go out and buy the "OHHHHHHHH PRETTY!!!" flowers, set aside a place in the yard to plant them (doesn't have to be decorative), and use them for potpouri!
 April 5, 2006, 14:11
 

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I've got an acre and a half to work with....there should always be enough room for yet another planting bed!!
 April 5, 2006, 14:14
 

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We have several acres to work with...Anyone have any suggestions as to what grows well in the SNOW, because we are about ready to give up on spring ever getting here!! I'm going to give up on the notion of planting my veggie garden!

Female Lev
 April 5, 2006, 14:17
 

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  QUOTE (Leviathan4u @ April 5, 2006, 14:17)
We have several acres to work with...Anyone have any suggestions as to what grows well in the SNOW, because we are about ready to give up on spring ever getting here!! I'm going to give up on the notion of planting my veggie garden!

Female Lev



I feel your pain, FL... well, not totally. We plant something here in Texas that can withstand some pretty cold temps, not worrying about them 'cause we don't have "typical" winters here, and then....... BAM... we get one of the famous Texas "colder than a witches tit" snaps and it dies

Just pisses me off to no end!!! lol
 April 5, 2006, 14:22
 

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I'm feelin' ya all about that! Except here in Missouri, it's a coin toss, will it be a dry dustbowl season, or a flooding rain season? In '93, after several dry dusty years, spent a bundle, and I planted all drought resistant plants only to have them all drown! ('93 was our year of the historical floods!!)
 April 5, 2006, 14:38
 

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Chazzy...heard your plants tried to "fly" to California or someother distant lands last week......lol
Would rather put up with the snow
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 April 5, 2006, 15:09
 

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Tomboy can tell ya about '93...we were freakin' UNDERWATER here, nothing but rain all spring and all summer long!
 April 5, 2006, 15:16
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  QUOTE (Chazzy @ April 5, 2006, 09:13)

I have 2 yr old clematis on the southside of my house, (lots of sun, roots well shaded) even though they bloom well, they just seem a little "skimpy". Need some suggestions on cutting back, pruning, feeding, whatever it will take to get them to "fill out".



Try feeding with 1 Tbsp of epsom salt every 2 weeks and then water very well. this will help to increase the number of blooms that you get on the plant. any plant that flowers can be fed epsom salts. Magnesium is not one the chemicals the you would test for when using a standard soil test, so you can"t test to check if you need it, which is why it's usually missed. Just please be sure to water very well or you'll burn the plant.
 April 5, 2006, 20:04
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  QUOTE (nykitten @ April 5, 2006, 12:31)
I personally would at least wait until after it blooms.....No reason to cut the flowers off now.......But, I do understand that feeling of not wanting to cut it back!...


clematis, butterfly bush, pampas grass and similar plants should all be pruned in Feb. Roses should be pruned in Nov and mulched very well to winter over
 April 5, 2006, 20:08
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  QUOTE (Leviathan4u @ April 5, 2006, 14:17)
We have several acres to work with...Anyone have any suggestions as to what grows well in the SNOW, because we are about ready to give up on spring ever getting here!! I'm going to give up on the notion of planting my veggie garden!

Female Lev


pansy's and snow drops bloom through the snow!
 April 5, 2006, 20:09
 

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I'll try the Epsom salt thing this year! And if things go as planned, I'll be deciding on and buying the Hydrangea replacement this weekend.
 April 6, 2006, 10:25
 

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5 words for ya'......

rusty nails and banana peels

 April 6, 2006, 10:33
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hey if i plant something will it grow by moon light
 April 6, 2006, 11:44
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Pine trees should only be pruned during the summer, when they are activily growing, and only cut new growth.
 April 6, 2006, 12:14
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93 was the worst year for flooding here in the state of missouri the rivers ended up far into the woods and covered dozens of roads and even some highways in country areas even the basement of the arch got flooded lots of property damage it was on the news nonstop 24-7
 April 6, 2006, 12:29
 

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...even the smallest creeks were reasons to loose sleep at night with the constant flash flood warnings...
 April 6, 2006, 12:35
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  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ April 6, 2006, 10:33)
5 words for ya'......

rusty nails and banana peels




coffee grounds too
 April 6, 2006, 15:38
 

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  QUOTE (wildflower59 @ April 6, 2006, 15:38)
  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ April 6, 2006, 10:33)
5 words for ya'......

rusty nails and banana peels




coffee grounds too



Absotively posilutely!!!
 April 6, 2006, 15:47
 

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  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ April 6, 2006, 15:47)
  QUOTE (wildflower59 @ April 6, 2006, 15:38)
  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ April 6, 2006, 10:33)
5 words for ya'......

rusty nails and banana peels




coffee grounds too



Absotively posilutely!!!




Alright...ya all need to explain the "why's and what for's" for all that stuff, otherwise is all just trash talk!
 April 6, 2006, 16:02
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when mulching in the fall mainly just giving more color to the area........in the spring mulch about 3-4 inches just incase there is a hard frost to help keep the plants or flowers from popping thru
 April 6, 2006, 22:15
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  QUOTE (Chazzy @ April 6, 2006, 16:02)
  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ April 6, 2006, 15:47)
  QUOTE (wildflower59 @ April 6, 2006, 15:38)
  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ April 6, 2006, 10:33)
5 words for ya'......

rusty nails and banana peels




coffee grounds too



Absotively posilutely!!!




Alright...ya all need to explain the "why's and what for's" for all that stuff, otherwise is all just trash talk!


ok you asked!
coffee grounds add a variety of nutrients to the soil. magnesium and nitrogen as well as some others. the way to remember is if your plants look droopy or "tired" they need coffee grounds!
rusty nails add iron to the soil some plants need more iron than others. gardenias definitely need iron, it's the reason a lot of people have trouble growing them.
banana peels are potassium , or potash. this is a major soil nutrient without it plants will not flower or bear fruit. it also helps to establish a good root system and stronger stems.
using these as a compost allows you to add that little extra without having to buy separate commercial products to do the same thing. any time you can compost and add that to your soil you are adding the natural ingredients back into the soil and aerating at the same time.(it's better for your plants)
I know too much technical stuff, sorry...
 April 7, 2006, 00:42
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when pruning rose bushes make a 45 degree angle cut and make sure its a clean cut or it might damage the plant and when dead heading hostas go to the bottom part of the stem from where the dead flower is also check the leaves on the bottom to make sure they are green if not remove them
 April 7, 2006, 12:14
 

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i've got a brand new yard to make my own... with a small pond. any suggestions? i prefer the more natural look with landscaping... less borders and golf course grasses and more simple plants that dont grab attention away from the house but add to the scene.
 April 7, 2006, 12:37
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  QUOTE (boredcountryboy @ April 7, 2006, 12:37)
i've got a brand new yard to make my own... with a small pond. any suggestions? i prefer the more natural look with landscaping... less borders and golf course grasses and more simple plants that dont grab attention away from the house but add to the scene.


try to describe your yard a little. deminsions, areas that you want planted etc. Do you like ornamental grasses? Do you like flowers? I just need a little more information.
 April 8, 2006, 08:41
 

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  QUOTE (Leviathan4u @ April 5, 2006, 14:17)
We have several acres to work with...Anyone have any suggestions as to what grows well in the SNOW, because we are about ready to give up on spring ever getting here!! I'm going to give up on the notion of planting my veggie garden!

Female Lev

Sounds like here it just started warming up so I planted some flowers and tilled the garden , the next day it was below freezing and looked like a blizzard outside but hey thats Wisconsin weather.
 April 8, 2006, 22:23
 

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  QUOTE (Leviathan4u @ April 5, 2006, 14:17)
We have several acres to work with...Anyone have any suggestions as to what grows well in the SNOW, because we are about ready to give up on spring ever getting here!! I'm going to give up on the notion of planting my veggie garden!

Female Lev



How about IceBerg lettuce.
 April 8, 2006, 22:46
 

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Cute Hothands....real cute

Female Lev
 April 8, 2006, 22:48
 

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Hey Wildflower, or anyone else with an answer.....
I did see a gardening show this weekend that talked about the quality of mulch on the market, some of it being the good stuff, and some of it being made from nasty diseased trees and such....ya happen to know how much I should trust a place like Walmart or Lowe's when buying bagged mulch???
 April 10, 2006, 11:53
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This same question came up on a gardening forum that I belong to.
The mulch from Walmart or any other major distributor is fine. The mulch that you would buy from some "fly-by-night" neighborhood group could be questionable. There have been rumors that trees from the flood regions are being made into mulch and are infested with termits. This information is false. If you find mulch that seems to be really cheap, don't buy it, that's the stuff that would be questionable. hope this helps.
 April 10, 2006, 12:51
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Hey Wildflower, or anyone else with an answer.....
I did see a gardening show this weekend that talked about the quality of mulch on the market, some of it being the good stuff, and some of it being made from nasty diseased trees and such....ya happen to know how much I should trust a place like Walmart or Lowe's when buying bagged mulch???[/quote

the better quality of mulch usually comes from tree services that grind the trees that they use for mulch also pay attention to the mulch...most places that have mulch piles test and take temperature readings before they would ship out to customers...if you buy mulch from hardware stores or where ever pay attention to prices and to what was used if marked hopes this helps since i have done lots of mulching professionally at places i have worked at
 April 10, 2006, 17:07
 

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Chazzy,

I know I'm late on your pruning question, but I thought I would ad my two cents anyway. I read in Gardening for Dummies, , that you can do light pruning almost anytime, but heavy pruning for vines should be done in late winter or early spring.
 April 11, 2006, 00:44
 

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Chazzy, here my clematis completely dies back in the winter and then grows again in the spring. I have had mine for 4 years and it is finally looking full this year - and has flowers - I just need to get it trained up the trellis better!
 April 11, 2006, 08:12
 

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for those of you that may buy your shurbs/annuals/perennials from wal-mart. To give you a heads up being some of the cashiers do not inform customers of this (not every one of them knows about it):

Trees/Shrubs: 1 year warranty (keep the receipt for proof of purchase), if it does die, you have to dig the dead shrub out of the ground and bring it back to the store to the customer service desk to get a refund (much easier route to go, just speaking from experience of working there) otherwise yes they can do an even exchange for the same shrub if you dont want the hassle of getting your money back, going through a different checkout, paying again, etc. You know the drill.

Annuals/Perennials... no warranties on it. Perennials are the plants that grows back every year. Annuals do not. *Perennials are in the grey containers (also grey for meaning its a shade plant) and Annuals are in the orange containers (meaning it's a sun plant).

African Violets... do not get the leaves wet or they will rot. When watering them, you need to move the leaves aside until you are done watering.

Choosing a Planter... pick one that is 2 sizes bigger than what the description tag says it will be for growing size as the bigger the planter, it'll give the roots more room to grow.

Potting soil... repot your plants every year. Enough said. *If it's an indoor plant, you want to use the nutrients such as Miracle Grow potting soil, or Miracle Grow Moisture Control potting soil (your preference of potting soils). Also have Expert Garden which is just a Wal-Mart brand of potting soil, not a whole lot of difference, both Miracle Grow and Expert has about the same amount of nutrients needed for the plants.
*If it's for an outdoor plant, you want to go with the $1.50 (or some cases $1.66) garden basic potting soil, which is basically flat out just water and dirt. No nutrients. So you'd probbaly want to get some of those little stake nutrient types. Should be in the plant food aisle across from the chemicals used for bugs, plants, etc.

Hope this helps a bit.. any more questions i can help you with it.
 April 11, 2006, 21:22
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you can also use miracle grow on rose bushes gives them much bigger roses or blooms but pay attention to the amount you need to use
 April 12, 2006, 14:40
 

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Chazzy, did you mention somewhere in this topic about putting some of our "greenery" pics up? If so, I have a bunch I'd like to put in a separate album, if that's ok.....
 April 12, 2006, 14:41
 

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Wasn't me! Although I have no objections...however, just keep in mind that any photos posted here without the member actually being in the photos do stand a helluva chance of being deleted and annoying the crap outta abs.
 April 12, 2006, 15:26
 

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I always need a little kick in the butt in the spring and you all sure gave it to me! I went out and bought my plants and completed 11 flower pots yesterday (8 arrangements and 3 little single pots). And I had hubby roto-till so I could get my flower seeds planted. Found the lilac bush and snowball bush I have been craving! What fun!!
 April 14, 2006, 09:03
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Missouri state tree is the white dogwood just thought i share that here
 April 14, 2006, 12:17
 

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  QUOTE (tomboy6978 @ April 14, 2006, 12:17)
Missouri state tree is the white dogwood just thought i share that here




State bird is the blue bird isn't?

Just got my first issue of the "Lowe's creative ideas for the home and garden" magazine....pretty freakin' cool! I recommend you go for it, it's free with an easy online sign up.
 April 14, 2006, 13:51
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Everybody needs a fig tree in their yard. The are easy to care for, and the resulting fruit is delicious.

Driving Chazzy lustfuly insane is an added bonus.
 April 15, 2006, 11:48
 

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Everybody needs a fig tree in their yard. The are easy to care for, and the resulting fruit is delicious.

Driving Chazzy lustfuly insane is an added bonus.



Just one fig tree? Do they require a male and female to cross pollination or can they just "do" themselves to produce fruit?

 April 17, 2006, 08:15
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  QUOTE (columbus17 @ April 15, 2006, 11:48)
Everybody needs a fig tree in their yard. The are easy to care for, and the resulting fruit is delicious.

Driving Chazzy lustfuly insane is an added bonus.



Just one fig tree? Do they require a male and female to cross pollination or can they just "do" themselves to produce fruit?



I have 2, but they are both female. Potman pollinates.
 April 18, 2006, 10:47
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