....Learn to read a womans body and you will know it all

I have no rules...Just expectations...Hate to be compared to all the other women...Specially when Im not like them

  QUOTE (Tease @ November 2, 2004, 16:18)


thats what you all say... each has their very own rule book yet to be written... and revised with out notice or justifications....

now guys all go by one book...
1. We do stupid shit.
2. We like to see something naked.
3. We want a beer.
4. (well i cant give them all out)

  QUOTE (Tease @ November 2, 2004, 16:18)


thats what you all say... each has their very own rule book yet to be written... and revised with out notice or justifications....

now guys all go by one book...
1. We do stupid shit.
2. We like to see something naked.
3. We want a beer.
4. (well i cant give them all out)

oh, but using sex to get your own way is just practical. "no sex until you wash the dishes," "You walk the dog and I'll make it worth your while!" "i'll blow you if you run to the store for my tampons"

see.. practical!

oh.. if you would just show up here. the list of tasks would be so long it might require months, even years to reward all of your labors.

You are so right in saying "...bringing that alter nympho personality out in every woman..." We (women) all have it, some can wear it confidently, but so many need the barriers broken down, barriers from things like daily stress that just doesn't allow us to focus on this part of us, or from the conflict of believing we must be the good girl who's ultimate gift must be earned, and a person with a pragmatic mind that knows sex is a physicaly gratifying biological act, the confusion of maintaining a good reputation that served no purpose except for making us think we we're somehow "better" than the easy slut girls, curiously, making us feel inferior and incomplete from denying ourselves to be a normal, sexual being with healthy minds, libidos, and biological needs. Since men are largely responsible for the double standards that cause our mother's and grandmother's to pass on ideas that respectable women don't like sex , men only want and marry respectable women and and the whores who like sex , aren't good enough for men to marry. So, maybe it's not that women are deliberatly playing head games with men, or purposely sending mixed siginals, maybe sometimes we're just so fucking confused, we can't help but be a source of confusion for men. ( Or, this all could just be the irrational babblings of a Southern Baptist raised woman,) Anyway, you all keep trying to bring out the nympho in us, and we women will keep on trying to push the nympho in us out to the surface.

A guy knows when I'm interested. I give the look and grab em!

  QUOTE (Chazzy @ November 3, 2004, 11:59)
I agree with everything you've just said Chazzy, except for one little point: "Since Men Are Largely Responsible". Thats BS. Like the price of fine wine, the price stays high if the availablity remains as low as possible. Simple supply and demand economics.

So, who's interests are served? Oh, and the role of the church in these matters wasn't to serve men, it was to protect women. Where else can a woman get complete financial suppoirt for her and her kids in exchange for regular sexual favors? Women were protected and society served as a whole because men didn't fight over women.

too many presumptions, not enough facts and to much opinion.

but interesting nonetheless...

Excellent points made, hothands ! (I love a good debate that leans towards the liveler, rowdy side!) I must admit that Sanger could not have follwed through with her contraceptive campaign, without her husband, and without other men (God bless 'em) who had the open mind to listen to a woman. I'm not a total raving feminist, I believe that allot must change in our society and government on the issues of father's rights.

  QUOTE (ceturner28 @ January 7, 2005, 23:06)


Be carefull when grabbing, you might grab the guy your mother warned you about

I hope everyone understands that this is argument, not fighting, and while I strongly believe in what I've been saying here, I am not trying to force it down anyone's throat.

All in all, I just want men and women to stop blaming each other, and accept each other for the great people they are. I have undergone a divorce where my kids lives were turned upside down and 'want' to blame my EX for this. I am trying very hard to not be bitter and rage against the social policies that have destroyed my family and my relationship with my kids.

Yet, I can't let that happen and expect to stay healthy and find love again, can I?

So, the solution is to accept reality for what it is. Understand the driving forces and root causes if I can, but accept whatever comes along. That way I can concentrate of being the kind of man that I want to be.

Men are not to blame. Women are not to blame. "The variation of the individual swamps out any general tendencies". In other words, don't pre-judge!